From: Frances (Frances.Robinson_at_btinternet.com)
Date: 26/05/03 10:30
Dear Simon
I've forwarded your comments to the steering group, as I did with Robert's
yesterday.
Best wishes
Frances
> From: "Simon Smith" <simonjohnsmith@btinternet.com>
> Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 00:03:16 +0100
> To: <hb_wireless@lists.gink.org>, "'Brian Marsden'" <b.marsden@tiscali.co.uk>,
> "'Richard'" <richard@norcomm.co.uk>, "'Frances'"
> <frances.robinson@btinternet.com>, "'Mark Campbell'" <campbell33@nme.com>,
> "'Chris Ratcliffe'" <chris@hebdenbridge.co.uk>
> Subject: RE: [hb_wireless] community ISP
>
> I concur.
>
> Let's encourage participation, creativity and co-operation. The
> community will 'openly' express its ideas; transparency is needed to
> allow the 'community' to share in and explore those ideas. This will
> enable informed decision making and facilitate progress.
>
> A diverse community as ours is, will seek support from a variety of
> 'groups' to move forward. We may not yet see a symbiosis but I agree
> there should and will be complimentary relationships.
>
> For example, I live in Colden but I might be too far from the exchange
> to get an ADSL connection. Obviously this will be subject to a site
> survey. Whilst I maintain that an ADSL connection is something I am
> keen to obtain, I am also exploring the wireless possibilities. The
> wireless route will be subject to some rigorous testing and a dependency
> on more people participating locally (or within LoS). A plausible
> scenario might be that I connect to a node in Heptonstall (Pioneer?)
> using wireless and jump onwards down into Hebden, to then break out onto
> an ADSL backbone. So I need both groups to support me. There is the
> potential then for me to support others around me in Colden and beyond,
> who knows.
>
> One thing I am clear on to date however is my need to communicate openly
> with people who can help me. This is not purely self serving as I can
> share with others and encourage growth. To do this however I need a
> communications vehicle appropriate to any number of requirements I might
> have. This can change according to situation, using e-mail, IRC, MSN,
> Newsgroups, Guestbook's and so on. The means of delivery is not an end
> in itself, rather the purpose for using that means. So, when we do get
> there and have people 'connected' I trust we will remember that it is in
> providing access to a freely used space which is the common goal. It is
> shortsighted to censor anything now.
>
> Simon
> #DigitalHebden on WhatnNet.Org
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hb_wireless-bounce@lists.gink.org
> [mailto:hb_wireless-bounce@lists.gink.org] On Behalf Of Robert Currey
> Sent: 25 May 2003 09:19
> To: hb_wireless; Brian Marsden; Richard; Frances; Mark Campbell; Chris
> Ratcliffe
> Subject: [hb_wireless] community ISP
>
>
> This is with regard to the Global Valley Community Cooperative ISP.
> Hopefully a project which is moulded by the people that will use it,
> rather than the like it or lump it of national suppliers (BT, Freeserve
> etc.) At HebWeb we have a forum that this moulding process might take
> place.
> I have been made aware that the digital forum at hebweb is somewhat
> judicious in what it posts to the website. Chris Radcliffe of HebWeb is
> on this list, let me acknowledge it is an understandable policy.
> Any posting mentioning an alternative form of communication to HebWeb's
> forum I believe, is not posted. I.E. the internet relay chat room
> #DigitalHebden is not mentioned, neither was a suggestion for a yahoo
> groups mailing list for GVCC (communications different in style and
> delivery to a moderated forum.)
> Can we gently cajole and reassure Chris that a transparent policy would
> be more in the net ethos. I would respect a policy of not publishing
> anything that in the editors opinion undermines HebWeb's role as a Hub,
> *if* it was stated and we can see that the postings have an editorial
> slant.
> What have people seen work well in a moderated forum? I have seen
> postings edited and omitted but with it obvious this has been done.
> Post comments to the wireless group not to Chris (who is in the
> wireless list), ta.
>
> Robert
>
> For those people in addition to the wireless group I have addressed:
> the wireless group have complementary ambitions to GVCC, to join the
> wireless discussion:
> send "subscribe" to hb_wireless-request@lists.gink.org
>
>
>
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